The Ancient Ancestors of Darnell L Williams Appendix

The Ancient Ancestors of Darnell L Williams Appendix

The family of the 20th Century

John H Brown

Husband of

Eliza Lucinda Blue Brown

The Movement of My Family

Letter Written on March 16, 1976

Letter to X-Wife Ann and I about the family starting at slavery

From Uncle Joe and Aunt Nellie. They knew Eliza Thorne.

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Eliza Lucinda Blue Brown 

The sister of Joe Blue

And

She is My Grandmother

The History of us all (Part 2)

Timbuktu

The world became developed in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. Timbuktu became the greatest learning center in the world.

Click on the Pictures or the links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJbvBfvXg4

Mankind: The Story of All of Us - Episode 4 [Warriors] [FULL EPİSODE]

When Rome is sacked by barbarians, Europe enters a Dark Age. But from the fringes of the old empire, two new forces remake the world. 

Watch Mankind: The Story of All of Us - Episode 4 [Warriors] Full Episode. When Rome is sacked by barbarians, Europe enters a Dark Age. But from the fringes of the old empire, two new forces remake the world. 

How Gold in the Muslim nations became important to the West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlpTJgDxJhY

Mankind: The Story of All of Us - Episode 5 [Plague] [FULL EPİSODE]

Genghis Khan–the bloodiest warlord in history–sweeps south from Mongolia into China and creates a mighty empire. He leaves 40 million dead bodies in his rear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bKwxWucoUI

Mankind: The Story of All of Us - Episode 6 [Survivors] [FULL EPİSODE]

Gold from Africa kick starts the rebirth of Europe. Money flows into Venice–creating new opportunities for entrepreneurs willing to take risks. In China, a new weapon–the gun–allows a peasant uprising to unify the country. Chinese innovations inspire Europe–leading to the printing press. Millions of books are printed. One of them will inspire a journey to the New World. America beckons.

Timbuktu was created. The greatest Muslim City in the middle ages. The Black people of Africa was developed and the wealth of Africa. African gold was the key to the greatest expansion of civilization in history.

A mysterious band of pirates plunders the Mediterranean coast–leaving destruction in its wake. Empires fall, but out of the chaos, we discover iron

The Ancient History of Darnell L Williams -- DNA Test 1

My mtDNA - Results

Haplogroup - L2a 

Here is my Origin

Part of the L cluster of haplogroups, which has been concretely characterized as representing the original human mitochondrial lineage, haplogroup L2a is found in Africa. This haplogroup dates to approximately 55,000 years ago, and is detected in highest frequency in north, west, and central Africa. Future work will further document the historical distribution of this haplogroup and closely related haplogroups of the L cluster.

For Faily Tree DNA to identify a specific subclade of L2a and its ancient migration history, I will need to upgrade to the mtDNA Full Sequence test with this company. Learn more.

Your Results

HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS 16182C 16183C 16189C 16223T 16278T 16294T 16297C 16309G 16390A

Revised Cambridge Reference Sequence

HVR1 REFERENCE SEQUENCE Show All Positions Position CRS Your Result 16182 A C 16183 A C 16189 T C 16223 C T 16278 C T 16294 C T 16297 T C 16309 A G 16390 G A

NOTE: If you notice, "G" is not on the map even though it is in my list a results.

What is the Reconstructed Sapiens Reference Sequence (RSRS)?

The Reconstructed Sapiens Reference Sequence (RSRS) is a mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)reference sequence that uses both a global sampling of modern human samples and samples from ancient hominids. It was introduced in early 2012 as a replacement for the rCRS (revised Cambridge Reference Sequence). Because it is based on the likely modal haplotype of the common ancestor to both modern humans and such ancient groups as the Neanderthals, it shows an unbiased path back from any one modern mtDNA sequence to our distant common maternal ancestor.

Do you remember me telling you that many Native American Group do not show up in DNA test due to not enough information about these groups are in the National Data Base? This could be why I have a "G" result but is not on the chart. Groups "A" and "C" is on the map coming across Asia and Alaska into the Unites States. They are probably Native American Groups. 

mtDNA is the genetic material found in mitochondria. It is passed down from females to both sons and daughters, but sons do not pass down their mother’s mtDNA to their children.

This test was taken by FamilyTreeDNA. I have a test coming from another company. We will look at that test and compare in about 3 months.  

The History of us all (Part 1)

The Roman Empire

In order to understand how you and your race came about, you have to know the history of mankind.  We are going to see several YouTube Videos that explain from a European view why things among the human race turned out the way it has.

Click on the pictures or the links below. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdPsKWX85I

Mankind: The Story Of All of Us - Episode 1 Part 1: The Evolution of Anti-Semitism

Here is the reason why the Jews have been persecuted for the past 2000 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvtycU_kJ9o

Mankind: The Story of All of Us - Episode 2 [Iron Men] [FULL EPİSODE]

We know about the Jewish Problem created between the European Whites and the Jews.  Here is the beginning of the holly war that has lasted to this day. Now let's see how the rest of the world evolved and started robbing and killing each other to where we are today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcpTxoxvTPk

Mankind: The Story of All of Us - Episode 3 [Empires] [FULL EPİSODE]

The Ancient Ancestors of Darnell L Williams Chapter 7

Ancient African Head in South America 

This is a conversation about DNA testing that shows different results by different DNA Companies. The customer is complaining about their Native American DNA percentage from various companies. Depending on what DNA is picked up in testing, DNA can give you different results. Here is why I say that DNA testing is not 100% reliable.  

Ancient People Moving Around The World 

9th May 2016, 08:39 PM

AwesomePossum  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4

Native American % way off?? I'm so confused. I tested with ancestry and then uploaded my raw data to FamilyTreeDNA and my results are completely different, especially my native american %. Ancestry Testing Company: Africa: 7% Native American: 45% Europe: 38% - Iberian Penisula 18% - Great Britain 14% - Irish 4% - European Jewish %1 - Italy/Greece <1% West Asia 9% - Caucus 5% - Middle East 4% Family Tree DNACompany European %49 - Southern Europe %35 - Scandinavian %8 - British Isles %5 - Finland and North Siberian %1 New World : %28 East Asian: %10 - North East Asia %10 Central/South Asia: %7 - Central Asia African: %5 - West Africa Middle Eastern %1 GEDMatch Company: North_Atlantic 18.25 Baltic 5.34 West_Med 13.64 West_Asian 3.80 East_Med 6.63 Red_Sea 2.04 South_Asian 0.47 East_Asian - Siberian 2.64 Amerindian 40.64 Oceanian - Northeast_African 1.91 Sub-Saharan 4.63 Why the huge % change in Native American and European?? So confused. Any ideas?

#2    9th May 2016, 09:14 PM

Armando  FTDNA Customer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,351

I have been complaining about the misreporting of Native American in myOrigins at FTDNA for a long time. I see it happen with every single Latin American that has Native American ancestry. It even happened to the 13,000 year old 100% Clovis Anzick-1 infant when the DNA was uploaded to FTDNA http://www.fi.id.au/2014/11/clovis-a...-in-ftdna.html Compare that to his makeup in Gedmatch athttp://www.fi.id.au/2014/10/new-clov...-gedmatch.html FTDNA myOrigins is the worst calculator when it comes to Native American DNA. Both Ancestry and 23andme do a better job.

#3    9th May 2016, 10:29 PM

khazaria  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 206

Welcome to our message board, AwesomePossum. As Armando said, we've seen these things happen many times. What happened in your case is 46% as the total of 28% New World + 10% Northeast Asia + 7% Central Asia + 1% Finland in MyOrigins equals 45% Native American in AncestryDNA This is because the Maya and Pima reference samples that had been included in an older calculator called Population Finder used here until 2014 are currently not included in MyOrigins because some of them were deemed impure (many of them are mixed to a limited extent with peoples from the Iberian peninsula). And in many GEDmatch calculators, the portions assigned to "Siberian" should be mentally added to your "Amerindian", so that 40.64% Amerindian + 2.64% Siberian = 43.28% real Native American for you. I see that AncestryDNA gave you a 1% European Jewish estimate. Out of curiosity, is your Middle Eastern portion categorized as North African, Asia Minor, or Eastern Middle East by MyOrigins? Some Sephardic DNA is classified under those categories, or under Southern European, by MyOrigins. Other Sephardic DNA is classified as "Ashkenazi Diaspora", but only tells the customer that when the person has at least 5% of that kind of DNA. I assume you have valid Jewish matches in GEDmatch. Last edited by khazaria; 9th May 2016 at 10:36 PM.

#4    9th May 2016, 10:46 PM

AwesomePossum  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4

Thank you guys so much for your help in trying to understand more about how they calculate admixtures. Here's my results from MyOrigins (added it as an attachment below) They list middle eastern just under "Middle Eastern." The Native American % you explained makes a lot of sense. 43.28% All three also mix the European portions. Ancestry seems to lump a lot into Great Britain. The other two break that up a bit more. My Origins confuses me on the European side too. Quote: Originally Posted by khazaria  Welcome to our message board, AwesomePossum. As Armando said, we've seen these things happen many times. What happened in your case is 46% as the total of 28% New World + 10% Northeast Asia + 7% Central Asia + 1% Finland in MyOrigins equals 45% Native American in AncestryDNA This is because the Maya and Pima reference samples that had been included in an older calculator called Population Finder used here until 2014 are currently not included in MyOrigins because some of them were deemed impure (many of them are mixed to a limited extent with peoples from the Iberian peninsula). And in many GEDmatch calculators, the portions assigned to "Siberian" should be mentally added to your "Amerindian", so that 40.64% Amerindian + 2.64% Siberian = 43.28% real Native American for you. I see that AncestryDNA gave you a 1% European Jewish estimate. Out of curiosity, is your Middle Eastern portion categorized as North African, Asia Minor, or Eastern Middle East by MyOrigins? Some Sephardic DNA is classified under those categories, or under Southern European, by MyOrigins. Other Sephardic DNA is classified as "Ashkenazi Diaspora", but only tells the customer that when the person has at least 5% of that kind of DNA. I assume you have valid Jewish matches in GEDmatch. Attached Images myorigins.jpg (45.6 KB, 7 views) Last edited by AwesomePossum; 9th May 2016 at 10:48 PM.

#5    9th May 2016, 10:49 PM

AwesomePossum  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4

Quote: Originally Posted by Armando  I have been complaining about the misreporting of Native American in myOrigins at FTDNA for a long time. I see it happen with every single Latin American that has Native American ancestry. It even happened to the 13,000 year old 100% Clovis Anzick-1 infant when the DNA was uploaded to FTDNA http://www.fi.id.au/2014/11/clovis-a...-in-ftdna.html Compare that to his makeup in Gedmatch athttp://www.fi.id.au/2014/10/new-clov...-gedmatch.html FTDNA myOrigins is the worst calculator when it comes to Native American DNA. Both Ancestry and 23andme do a better job. Yeah, I am going to test with 23andme to see what they give me. From what I hear they give you more details and more tooks to utilize.

#6    9th May 2016, 11:27 PM

khazaria  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 206

Quote: Originally Posted by AwesomePossum  They list middle eastern just under "Middle Eastern. "Eastern Middle East" according to the screenshot. Thanks for that. Some European Jews do show small percentages of that in MyOrigins. Quote: Originally Posted by AwesomePossum  Yeah, I am going to test with 23andme to see what they give me. From what I hear they give you more details and more tooks to utilize. Okay, post your future 23andme results for us in this thread later this year, if that's what you end up doing. They took away a few of their tools but their ethnicity estimates are often more accurate than the other sites. But to be honest, I don't think you really need 23andme because you're already in all the best databases for matching with relatives, and their ethnicity calculations are close enough to reality that you don't really have to doubt your ancestry. It might be better to spend the money on a different autosomal kit for a relative of yours such as if you have a living parent or grandparent or aunt/uncle or a fullblood sibling.

#7    9th May 2016, 11:44 PM

AwesomePossum  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4

Thanks so much for your help! I guess I'm curious to see how they estimate my native ancestry and European ancestry. I know these are estimates and it's hard to distinguished between certain areas but really do want to learn more. It shocked me to learn about the Great Britain percentage on ancestry and was wondering how that was determined. Also on GEDmatxh it shows that my distances are too far than most. When I check it just says that their might now be enough of my ancestry in the data base to give me off numbers. When I test the beta against 3 matches I get 50% Mayan, 25% Mozambite barber, ans 25% West English. I'm just trying to make sense of it all! I am planning on testing my both parents soon. Again thank for your help!!! Quote: Originally Posted by khazaria  "Eastern Middle East" according to the screenshot. Thanks for that. Some European Jews do show small percentages of that in MyOrigins. Okay, post your future 23andme results for us in this thread later this year, if that's what you end up doing. They took away a few of their tools but their ethnicity estimates are often more accurate than the other sites. But to be honest, I don't think you really need 23andme because you're already in all the best databases for matching with relatives, and their ethnicity calculations are close enough to reality that you don't really have to doubt your ancestry. It might be better to spend the money on a different autosomal kit for a relative of yours such as if you have a living parent or grandparent or aunt/uncle or a fullblood sibling.

#8    10th May 2016, 12:26 AM

khazaria  FTDNA Customer Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 206

Quote: Originally Posted by AwesomePossum  I am planning on testing my both parents soon. Good, this is what I was recommending. After that happens, you'll be able to create a phased kit for yourself inside GEDmatch. That'll help you find which segments and ethnicities you inherited come from which parent. As for your British and Irish ethnic affinities, which might be ancient, many Spanish and Portuguese people score multiple percentage points of those in AncestryDNA. This thread shows some examples: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...nyone-have-any So those affinities usually come to Latin Americans like Mexicans through their Northern Spanish and Basque ancestors.

#9    10th May 2016, 07:16 AM

Armando  FTDNA Customer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,351

Quote: Originally Posted by AwesomePossum  Thanks so much for your help! I guess I'm curious to see how they estimate my native ancestry and European ancestry. I know these are estimates and it's hard to distinguished between certain areas but really do want to learn more. It shocked me to learn about the Great Britain percentage on ancestry and was wondering how that was determined. Also on GEDmatxh it shows that my distances are too far than most. When I check it just says that their might now be enough of my ancestry in the data base to give me off numbers. When I test the beta against 3 matches I get 50% Mayan, 25% Mozambite barber, ans 25% West English. I'm just trying to make sense of it all! I am planning on testing my both parents soon. Again thank for your help!!! 23andme also does a better job of identifying Iberian vs British Isles and also Iberian vs Italian than either Ancestry or FTDNA. You really should test yourself and both of your parents at 23andme because they use the parents to phase which creates a better estimate of your ethnic breakdown but FTDNA and Ancestry do not use the parents for phasing. 23andme also provides a breakdown of the ethnicity by chromosome and even shows the ethnic breakdown from each parent by chromosome when you test your parents. So 23andme is better both with the ethnicity calculator and the DNA tools for ethnicity.

#10    16th May 2016, 09:58 PM

crossover  FTDNA Customer Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 109

Quote: Originally Posted by AwesomePossum  I'm so confused. I tested with ancestry and then uploaded my raw data to FamilyTreeDNA and my results are completely different, especially my native american %. Ancestry Company; Africa: 7% Native American: 45% Europe: 38% - Iberian Penisula 18% - Great Britain 14% - Irish 4% - European Jewish %1 - Italy/Greece <1% West Asia 9% - Caucus 5% - Middle East 4% Family Tree DNA Company; European %49 - Southern Europe %35 - Scandinavian %8 - British Isles %5 - Finland and North Siberian %1 New World : %28 East Asian: %10 - North East Asia %10 Central/South Asia: %7 - Central Asia African: %5 - West Africa Middle Eastern %1 GEDMatch Company: North_Atlantic 18.25 Baltic 5.34 West_Med 13.64 West_Asian 3.80 East_Med 6.63 Red_Sea 2.04 South_Asian 0.47 East_Asian - Siberian 2.64 Amerindian 40.64 Oceanian - Northeast_African 1.91 Sub-Saharan 4.63 Why the huge % change in Native American and European?? So confused. Any ideas? your results are quite similar to my grandma's